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A lot of constitutional (state and federal) discourse is carried out on the question of government over-reaching the powers granted to it. But powers are not the only things in there. The powers have purposes. There are also functions that are spelled-out requirements of the chartered government.
What happens when government abdicates adequate performance of those functions explicitly spelled out as its duty?
Worse, what happens when it abdicates adequate performance of those duties to better spend its money on ancillary functions many consider essential to those dependent on them?
Such a question is on the front burner in NH right now.
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100415/OPINION/4150318
I think you can guess my position on this - but I will spell it out: I think impeachment would not be too much of a stretch. Thank goodness we still vote on governor and legislators every 2 years (which this same set of slobs is looking to change, by the by).
Some services may be "essential" to the recipients of same, but such things must be spelled out in that giant piece of paper under which we charter and regularly recharter the government. (Indeed, in NH, it is vastly easier to amend the state constitution than it is for the USA to do so, and it has been done on a regular basis.) Some, spelled-out-since-inception functions are there as requirements because they are essential to the very fabric of society. That the law have teeth (and not "oh, they can use 'mediation as an alternative,'" which is like saying anyone is allowed to steal, but only half) is the backbone of a "society of laws and not men." I'll also just go ahead and cut off the strawman argument that the lawyers don't need more money: This is about those who need access to justice. The more efficient the court system, the better funded it is, the less money the lawyers make, the less cases cost, the more that cases get won by the just and not settled to avoid the cost of legal representation, and ultimately the better society gets. Nuisance suits and SLAPPs are based on the cost of access to justice.
The adequacy of the court system has been an essential item in western law since at least the Magna Carta. (No really, look it up - people talked about overthrowing the King over stunts like this.) Ultimately, it is all that backs anyone's access to justice - and to the rest of the functions and services of the government. If the idea is that we can trust government to do its job without the courts, or that people can just get along or mediate, or that the courts should be ranked no higher than one or another of those other services and functions of government, it shows a terrible disregard for the rule of law and not men.
What happens when government abdicates adequate performance of those functions explicitly spelled out as its duty?
Worse, what happens when it abdicates adequate performance of those duties to better spend its money on ancillary functions many consider essential to those dependent on them?
Such a question is on the front burner in NH right now.
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100415/OPINION/4150318
Lawmakers who want to see why the courts can't sustain further cuts should walk the courthouse halls. They will see angry, anxious, tearful and frightened people hoping to have their problem addressed so they can get on with their life. They will find families in crisis. People who can afford a lawyer huddle in an alcove or at a table and confer in whispers. In divorce cases, at least one party will not have a lawyer 70 percent of the time, even though custody of a child or ownership of a home is at stake.
I think you can guess my position on this - but I will spell it out: I think impeachment would not be too much of a stretch. Thank goodness we still vote on governor and legislators every 2 years (which this same set of slobs is looking to change, by the by).
Some services may be "essential" to the recipients of same, but such things must be spelled out in that giant piece of paper under which we charter and regularly recharter the government. (Indeed, in NH, it is vastly easier to amend the state constitution than it is for the USA to do so, and it has been done on a regular basis.) Some, spelled-out-since-inception functions are there as requirements because they are essential to the very fabric of society. That the law have teeth (and not "oh, they can use 'mediation as an alternative,'" which is like saying anyone is allowed to steal, but only half) is the backbone of a "society of laws and not men." I'll also just go ahead and cut off the strawman argument that the lawyers don't need more money: This is about those who need access to justice. The more efficient the court system, the better funded it is, the less money the lawyers make, the less cases cost, the more that cases get won by the just and not settled to avoid the cost of legal representation, and ultimately the better society gets. Nuisance suits and SLAPPs are based on the cost of access to justice.
The adequacy of the court system has been an essential item in western law since at least the Magna Carta. (No really, look it up - people talked about overthrowing the King over stunts like this.) Ultimately, it is all that backs anyone's access to justice - and to the rest of the functions and services of the government. If the idea is that we can trust government to do its job without the courts, or that people can just get along or mediate, or that the courts should be ranked no higher than one or another of those other services and functions of government, it shows a terrible disregard for the rule of law and not men.
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Date: 2010-04-15 02:24 pm (UTC)The possibility that jury trials might be suspended, though, is horrific.
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Date: 2010-04-15 03:09 pm (UTC)Honestly, though, I suspect that the core of the problem with respect to the courts is that the court system in the US is fundamentally broken. Large numbers of the cases clogging US courts are basically frivolous, whether it's liability suits from people sueing the chainsaw manufacturer because there wasn't an explicit warning on the chainsaw not to balance the running saw across your leg while you reposition the log, or the Federal government trying to throw someone in jail for lighting up a joint or for violating one of hundreds of thousands of laws that he had no reason to even be aware of the existence of without having a full legal research department. America is drowning under the weight of lawyers — we have almost 50% more lawyers than either doctors or police officers, one lawyer for every two nurses, almost eight times as many lawyers as dentists, more lawyers per capita than any other nation in the world — and buried under ever-increasing reams of law and regulation, all of which must be complied with, and all of which costs money to comply with and to enforce. It's little wonder the court system is buckling under the load.
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Date: 2010-04-15 03:25 pm (UTC)And yeah, don't get me started on drug law, or the way the DEA loves to assert (dare I say arrogate?) fundamentally legislative powers and continues to nip at the heels of the judiciary.
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Date: 2010-04-15 03:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-04-15 03:29 pm (UTC)I also think you have it backwards: The reason we have a lot of lawyers is because the work is already there - the courts are SO slow, so underfunded, and so burdened by the ordinary. That in turn leads to perfectly valid, but low-$ cases that might have been left be, showing up in court because the likely cost to the defendant encourages going for it. It also discourages contract cases from going to court because often enough more than half the value will be consumed in legal fees just getting to court.
It's nothing new - read Bleak House, which recounts with only some exaggeration the way the English courts were functioning before the major reforms took effect. It's time for reform in ours.
A guaranteed quick, just, and speedy resolution is essential to undoing all the evils you base your (causally inverted, in my opinion) post on.
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Date: 2010-04-15 03:45 pm (UTC)Oh, I should also have added, I'm pleased the proportion of frivolous suits is so small in NH. It coincides well with my impression of most NH folks as basically pretty level-headed and self-reliant. California, on the other hand ... fer cryin' out loud, it seems like people sue at the drop of a hat there.
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Date: 2010-04-15 05:25 pm (UTC)I ask because you seem to be getting it from media and Internet.
As for the lawyers just making work - think of the economics? How do they make work magically that someone is going to pay for? How does that explain the growth (and now cessation of growth) in the profession?
Having seen several cases cost absolutely farcical amounts - entirely due to the ineptitude and underfunding of the court in question - I really don't think the lawyers are "making" the work. It's there and the courts are in the crapper.
NH isn't the counter-example - it's the barebones case. Its courts are going in the crapper entirely due to a funding curve that hasn't kept pace with inflation, let alone the growth in population. Probably a profitable time to become a NH attorney, but a bad time for everyone else. And yet it's attorneys complaining, because of course while the fees are nice, it's nicer still for most attorneys to reach results for their clients.
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Date: 2010-04-15 05:57 pm (UTC)They become congresscritters. ;)
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Date: 2010-04-15 07:18 pm (UTC)*shudder*
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Date: 2010-04-15 06:38 pm (UTC)Sure, I'll freely admit I haven't done rigorous research on the subject. There are only so many things that one person can study in depth. But all that expense to drum up business isn't a sign of a profession that already has all the business it can handle.
Could cessation of growth mean that they finally hit saturation — or, perhaps more to the point, is all that advertising for business plus cessation of growth a sign that the profession hit saturation some time back, and the pipeline just finally emptied?
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Date: 2010-04-15 07:15 pm (UTC)The governor is cutting 85-ish exec branch jobs, and calling for 60-70 in the Judicial branch. Sounds fair! Except that's <1% of exec branch jobs and 10% of judicial branch jobs.
Buh-bye speedy trial.
Also, consider it cost shifting. For every day a prisoner's trial is delayed, not only is there an increasing chance of missing the "speedy trial" deadline required by the US Constitution, but the COUNTY pays to keep the prisoner locked up. That's right, the cost "savings" is just cost shifting.
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Date: 2010-04-15 08:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-04-15 02:40 pm (UTC)This is not New Hampshire's problem alone. All over the US, the legacy of decades of fiscal irresponsibility is coming home to roost, and sinking boats are pulling sound ones down with them. The official inside-the-beltway party line may be that "the recession is over", despite the fact that the economy is still bleeding jobs, but I still believe we have not seen the worst of this yet.
Afterthought:
We should also not forget that a vital purpose of a constitution is to enumerate not only the things that a government is required and authorized to do, but the things that it is explicitly forbidden to do. (However hard Congress tries to pretend otherwise and sweep the latter under the rug.) No government not of idealists will ever willingly decline power that it has the opportunity to take, nor ever willingly give up a power that it has once seized for itself whether openly or by subterfuge.
Once again, I find myself thinking that the Vikings had wisdom we could learn from. A part of the operation of the Althing was that once a year, they would pile up all the books of law and burn them. The Althing then got to keep as many laws as its members could remember and write down again in twenty-four hours. If no-one could remember a particular law in that period, it clearly wasn't important enough to need keeping.
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Date: 2010-04-15 03:30 pm (UTC)For a fascinating look into the psychology that enables this phenomenon, have you read Bob Altemeyer's The Authoritarians?
The Althing then got to keep as many laws as its members could remember and write down again in twenty-four hours.
This is pretty delightful. Do you have a source on that? I googled but came up empty.
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